I love Star Trek: Insurrection!! (Why don't you?)

[kahunageek]

Hair-Metal Hero,

I agree with everything, and to love Trek is to love cheese. Some people just don't understand that.

Roddenberry's vision of stamping out our prejudices indefinitely is of course what man should strive for, but ultimately the vision is impractical. It won't be driven from us fully because with new experiences brings new conflicts of opinion. That is the whole drive of Trek, and why I love it. Referencing one of my favorite episodes of TOS by far (and favorite mostly for the CHEESE factor, speaking of...), episode #65-Plato's Stepchildren, where Kirk summarizes the breadth of Trek in one simple response to the dwarf servant Alexander:

Alexander: From where you come from, are there people [without the power], and my size?
Kirk: Alexander... where I come from size, shape or color makes no difference.

Slap it on a poster and call it progression, sixties... It's ridiculously 60's television, but it's one of the simplest ways to express Roddenberry's vision. It's safe to say he knew what he was getting himself into. Let me just point out that this quote from Kirk is probably only referring to humans, since most know that in and beyond Starfleet there was still prejudice between the humans and vulcans, even though the cultural relationships have been well-established. Humans may have gotten over their own racial discrimination by this star date, but having first contact with the vulcans is just proving my point. The cycle of fighting discrimination starts over from the beginning, now with the vulcans being the target (and on Vulcan vice-versa of course). It is apparent in many cases in the show and the first six movies ("Green-blooded inhuman...!!!" isn't always a nice Doc moment... ) that during the original series it was still an issue. WHY must there always be conflict like this? BECAUSE we're human! We make mistakes, we make false judgments, time will not take that away. It will only show us the past and how better or worse we are for it, and what we can learn from it. I love goddamn Trek.

Seriously though, all I MEANT to say is I liked your comment, I agree, and still I love first contact the most, for a variety of reasons.

And also, that is one bitchin' avatar.

[Hair-Metal Hero]

Thanks dude. That was me living out the dream for haloween last year in my avatar(won the office costume contest as well). I could never pull that look off day to day in the 9 to 5 world. The experience of that wig was awful(and awesome), I don't know how people do it. I'm the most boring person there is visually out of character. Thankfully my gut got cropped along with my studded belt and huge buckle. Agreed on wanting to progress as a species, but mankind knowing its faults and dealing with them seems to carry more dramatic heft in my eyes.

[rrwerner]

Part of the problem is it gets snickers for sounding too much like "Star Trek: Insert Erection". It does feel like a TV episode but movies should be grander than that. I do like it but found FIRST CONTACT to be the best of the Next Gen films with NEMESIS coming in 2nd.

I do like all the Trek films but still have to go back and watch STAR TREK V. I saw it once on TV with the commercial breaks and it played much better on the small screen. Like a made for TV movie. I've been checking out the special features on the first movie lately. I love all they clips for the proposed new TV show that was shot in the 70s.

I love the new movie and, by the end, I could not wait for the next movie. It has been a long time since a movie did that.

[vorpalkeith]

Mostly it's just dull.

[Hair-Metal Hero]

Star Trek 5 is way under appreciated, everything with the big 3 is gold.

[NewFun#6]