Cultural Wormhole Presents: X-Nation Episode 63

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Cultural Wormhole Presents: X-Nation Episode 63

Postby PSB » Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:33 pm


Three X-Men books meet their ends, and after months of hype, Avengers Vs. X-Men finally begins. All this and more as we discuss the Month in X for March 2012.

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Month in X - March 2012: Generation Hope #17, X-23 #21, Daken #22, Daken #23,Wolverine #302, Wolverine #303, X-Club #4, X-Men #26, New Mutants #39, X-Factor #233, Uncanny X-Force #23, Astonishing X-Men #48, X-Men: Legacy #263, X-Men: Legacy #264, WatXM: Alpha & Omega #3, WatXM #7, Uncanny X-Men #8, Uncanny X-Men #9, Avengers: The Children's Crusade #9, X-Sanction #4, and Avengers vs. X-Men #0.


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Re: Cultural Wormhole Presents: X-Nation Episode 63

Postby CIBAWAG » Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:38 pm

Daken joining Cyclops would have been a good idea. It would have been a good way for both of them to cheese off Logan. I doubt Utopia is going to be around long enough for Gillen to make that happen though.

Liz, just because you have been repeating "Mind Ninjas," doesn't make it sound like a bad idea to me. This has been some of the best use for Amiko ever. It's always bugged me that no matter how many protege's Wolverine has had, the most neglected is his actual foster daughter. I'm glad she is grown up, into an out of control teenager, and this story was worth telling, just for that. I also like how convenient it is for the Melita relationship to end, just in time for the return of the Pheonix.

K though seriously, I have a beef, Antony. Storm racist against vampires? First of all, they are not human. They're dead, and the number one predator of humans. If Storm is racist, than Blade must be a genocidal maniac! And second of all, even if you can consider vampires to be humans, than they are still the most racist, privileged, elitist humans ever. Anyone who believes Storm is being some kind of "reverse" racist has seen too much modern vampire fiction.
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Re: Cultural Wormhole Presents: X-Nation Episode 63

Postby Mistress LeBeau » Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:44 pm

*L* Actually, Amiko was my favorite part of the Wolverine books. I was just SUPER-Happy that she summed-up who she was in an easy to understand thought bubble.

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Postby MadroxDupe42 » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:52 am

You got me thinking about Astonishing X-Men again. In hindsight, the book probably would have benefited from a Point One issue at this juncture. I can think of several ways it would have helped.

1) It would help clarify that Liu is the ongoing writer on this title, and this isn't just another one-and-done arc. (At least, that's my understanding of the plan.)
2) It would provide a palate cleanser from the less than stellar arcs that preceded it.
3) Liu could have used the Point One issue to set up the various relationships, the NY apartments, etc without the pressure of starting a real plot as well. I think that would have helped the structural problems that issue #48 suffered from.


Completely unrelated thought: this thing with Husk feels like one of those things that gets teased and teased, but then they run out of time to actually tell the story. I believe that there is a story there, I just have a hunch that we may never get to read it. Maybe it's just because we haven't had a Husk story in quite a while. I hope my hunch turns out to be wrong.
Wait - Rictor was his boyfriend's mother's obstetrician?!?

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Re: Cultural Wormhole Presents: X-Nation Episode 63

Postby Northstar » Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:26 am

The issue could have benefited from them getting Northstar's name right. He was called Jean-Paul (correct) once and Jean-Claude (incorrect) three times.

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Re: Cultural Wormhole Presents: X-Nation Episode 63

Postby MadroxDupe42 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:14 pm

All the great stuff :D I put on the forum, and the one thing that gets attributed to me in the podcast wasn't even my comment...
Wait - Rictor was his boyfriend's mother's obstetrician?!?

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Wait - Rictor was his boyfriend's mother's obstetrician?!?

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Re: Cultural Wormhole Presents: X-Nation Episode 63

Postby MetoxoTheLavaMan » Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:30 pm

Antony, when did storm become African American?

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Postby DarkKnightJared » Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:41 am

I get that Liz wanted to see a corpse to make sure he's dead, but come on--this is superhero comics, and this is X-MEN comics. If they want him back, he'll come back. Nextwave said it best--"X-Men come back more than Jesus."

Daken on the Extinction Team would have been kinda interesting--plus, no matter how bad Daken is, I'm pretty sure Magneto's death count is higher.

I am now so tempted to try to draw Wolverine as Ash with his asian women coming out of his Pokeballs. :O

I haven't read any New Mutants up to this point but I did flip through #39 after hearing good things, and I actually enjoyed it--it has continuity I don't quite get, but it works as it's own, creepy as hell body horror story.

I don't understand why people are thinking Psylocke's suddenly turned back to Caucasian. What happened to make that happen? What, just because she wore a costume with a Union Jack for a couple of issues it somehow magically changed her skin pigment? And if the argument is that she looks white, that doesn't work, because there are little to no mainstream comic book artists who can draw different races right.

I agree about Astonishing--there's potential for this team and story, but for someone like me who hasn't read a lot of stories with these characters, it didn't seem to do anything to really show why I should love these characters.

Where else has Brand been? I mean, she was in Wolverine & The X-Men #7 for a couple of pages and at the beginning of Uncanny's arc's she'll come in to set them up, but that's not a whole lot of appearances.

On #7 in general--the diamonds thing annoyed me, and I would think that Kitty might make a bigger deal out of the fact that they blew up her uterus, but I still really enjoyed it. What you guys might call "trying too hard to be extreme," I call it the one book that actually tries to do something different from the usual, semi-boring stuff the other satellite books set up.
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Postby MetoxoTheLavaMan » Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:01 am

Agh yes, I remember now

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Re: Cultural Wormhole Presents: X-Nation Episode 63

Postby MadroxDupe42 » Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:32 am

Wait - Rictor was his boyfriend's mother's obstetrician?!?

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Wait - Rictor was his boyfriend's mother's obstetrician?!?

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